The death of intellectual discussion.

Was watching a bit of the debate, didn’t take long to get turned off by all the bitching going on.

And please don’t jump in with your guy did this, or their guy did that, it was all a bit embarrassing. That’s not what this is about.

It’s like everything these days is just one big dysfunctional Jersey Shore type reality show.

It’s kind of a shame how we can’t just sit down and talk to each other anymore.

I’m not so naive to think that will solve all our problems, but I think it would be a good start.

It’s just the way the circus that has been set up. Voting every few years for manifestos that bear little resemblance to what actually gets implemented, with no choice over the big decisions like starting wars, bailing out banking systems, whether to shut a country down or what largely irreversible treaties get negotiated.

Mainstream politics is not the place to look for intellectual discussion.

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I couldn’t watch. Trump needed to shut up, I don’t know where that strategy came from. I can see trying to throw Joe off his game by being aggresssive, but after a couple of minutes it was time to just go with the flow, and I’m told he never did.

Thread too long, didnt read, fuck you guys.

Removed my last two posts, the criticisms [about the backgammon site] were/are justified imo but to hell with griping about it here.

I didn’t see any of the debate but maybe ol’ Joe is bunging on a bit of an act with the ‘dementia symptoms’ so he can ramp it up as a defensive mechanism if called in to give evidence about the Burisma case, election rigging etc

I found it hilarious

Wow, whatever any of you do, don’t be too infinitive in your your statements.

I thought it was a hoot, and what most people don’t understand, is that if Donald “shut up” there wouldn’t have been a debate, because Sleepy Joe would have nodded off. What Donald was doing was doing his best to keep Sleepy Joe awake, and more power to him. Did anyone else notice how Sleepy Joe’s eye’s kept flickering and how he kept having those little stuttering fits throughout? you could tell it pissed him off.

Personally I think it will be touch and go whether or not Sleepy Joe makes through until election day.

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Looking forward to see what President Trump can do in his second term,
it’s going to be a HOOT!!!

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Undecided voters please read ahead!!!

What President Trump has achieved -
He created a White House VA Hotline to help veterans and principally staffed it with veterans and direct family members of veterans.

  • VA employees are being held accountable for poor performance, with more than 4,000 VA employees removed, demoted, and suspended so far.
  • Issued an executive order requiring the Secretaries of Defense, Homeland Security, and Veterans Affairs to submit a joint plan to provide veterans access to access to mental health treatment as they transition to civilian life.
  • Because of a bill signed and championed by Trump, in 2020, most federal employees will see their pay increase by an average of 3.1% — the largest raise in more than 10 years.
  • Trump signed into a law up to 12 weeks of paid parental leave for millions of federal workers.
  • Trump administration will provide HIV prevention drugs for free to 200,000 uninsured patients per year for 11 years.
  • All-time record sales during the 2019 holidays.
  • Trump signed an order allowing small businesses to group together when buying insurance to get a better price
  • President Trump signed the Preventing Maternal Deaths Act that provides funding for states to develop maternal mortality reviews to better understand maternal complications and identify solutions & largely focuses on reducing the higher mortality rates for Black Americans.
  • In 2018, President Trump signed the groundbreaking First Step Act, a criminal justice bill which enacted reforms that make our justice system fairer and help former inmates successfully return to society.
  • The First Step Act’s reforms addressed inequities in sentencing laws that disproportionately harmed Black Americans and reformed mandatory minimums that created unfair outcomes.
  • The First Step Act expanded judicial discretion in sentencing of non-violent crimes.
  • Over 90% of those benefitting from the retroactive sentencing reductions in the First Step Act are Black Americans. Freeing 90,000 Black Americans.
  • The First Step Act provides rehabilitative programs to inmates, helping them successfully rejoin society and not return to crime.
  • Trump increased funding for Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) by more than 14%. It also made it so they didn’t have to come back to DC every year and beg for funding.
  • Trump signed legislation forgiving Hurricane Katrina debt that threatened HBCUs.
  • New single-family home sales are up 31.6% in October 2019 compared to just one year ago.
  • Made HBCUs a priority by creating the position of executive director of the White House Initiative on HBCUs.
  • Trump received the Bipartisan Justice Award at a historically black college for his criminal justice reform accomplishments.
  • The poverty rate fell to a 17-year low of 11.8% under the Trump administration as a result of a jobs-rich environment.
  • Poverty rates for African-Americans and Hispanic-Americans have reached their lowest levels since the U.S. began collecting such data.
  • President Trump signed a bill that creates five national monuments, expands several national parks, adds 1.3 million acres of wilderness, and permanently reauthorizes the Land and Water Conservation Fund.
  • Trump’s USDA committed $124 Million to rebuild rural water infrastructure.
  • Consumer confidence & small business confidence is at an all-time high.
  • More than 7 million jobs created since election.
  • As of 2019 more Americans were employed than ever recorded before in our history.
  • More than 400,000 manufacturing jobs created since his election.
  • Trump appointed 5 openly gay ambassadors.
  • Trump ordered Ric Grenell, his openly gay ambassador to Germany, to lead a global initiative to decriminalize homosexuality across the globe.
  • Through Trump’s Anti-Trafficking Coordination Team (ACTeam) initiative, Federal law enforcement more than doubled convictions of human traffickers and increased the number of defendants charged by 75% in ACTeam districts.
  • In 2018, the Department of Justice (DOJ) dismantled an organization that was the internet’s leading source of prostitution-related advertisements resulting in sex trafficking.
  • Trump’s OMB published new anti-trafficking guidance for government procurement officials to more effectively combat

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combat human trafficking.

  • Trump’s Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s Homeland Security Investigations arrested 1,588 criminals associated with Human Trafficking.
  • Trump’s Department of Health and Human Services provided funding to support the National Human Trafficking Hotline to identify perpetrators and give victims the help they need.
  • The hotline identified 16,862 potential human trafficking cases.
  • Trump’s DOJ provided grants to organizations that support human trafficking victims – serving nearly 9,000 cases from July 1, 2017, to June 30, 2018.
  • The Department of Homeland Security has hired more victim assistance specialists, helping victims get resources and support.
  • President Trump has called on Congress to pass school choice legislation so that no child is trapped in a failing school because of his or her zip code.
  • The President signed funding legislation in September 2018 that increased funding for school choice by $42 million.
  • The tax cuts signed into law by President Trump promote school choice by allowing families to use 529 college savings plans for elementary and secondary education.
  • Under his leadership ISIS has lost most of their territory and been largely dismantled.
  • ISIS leader Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi was killed.
  • Signed the first Perkins CTE reauthorization since 2006, authorizing more than $1 billion for states each year to fund vocational and career education programs.
  • Executive order expanding apprenticeship opportunities for students and workers.
  • Trump issued an Executive Order prohibiting the U.S. government from discriminating against Christians or punishing expressions of faith.
  • Signed an executive order that allows the government to withhold money from college campuses deemed to be anti-Semitic and who fail to combat anti-Semitism.
  • President Trump ordered a halt to U.S. tax money going to international organizations that fund or perform abortions.
  • Trump imposed sanctions on the socialists in Venezuela who have killed their citizens.
  • Finalized new trade agreement with South Korea.
  • Made a deal with the European Union to increase U.S. energy exports to Europe.
  • Withdrew the U.S. from the job-killing TPP deal.
  • Secured $250 billion in new trade and investment deals in China and $12 billion in Vietnam.
  • Okayed up to $12 billion in aid for farmers affected by unfair trade retaliation.
  • Has had over a dozen US hostages freed, including those Obama could not get freed.
  • Trump signed the Music Modernization Act, the biggest change to copyright law in decades.
  • Trump secured Billions that will fund the building of a wall at our southern border.
  • The Trump Administration is promoting second chance hiring to give former inmates the opportunity to live crime-free lives and find meaningful employment.
  • Trump’s DOJ and the Board of Prisons launched a new “Ready to Work Initiative” to help connect employers directly with former prisoners.

…“yeah, but twump wussia something something”

Another one bites the dust: https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=241359

Considering the context, “You can fuck off with your…” does not count as intellectual discussion. Although the eageriest, beaveriest capos over at forum.cockos.com are not interested in any discussion of these issues, which are very on topic considering that they are actually supplied with the product itself.

Could it be any clearer to all but the dumbest of bovines that the Backgammon Galaxy website run by Marc Brockmann-Olsen is laughably corrupt. But why and how would a free website rig games?

Well, it’s designed to elevate players within cancel culture ranks to :esteemed: positions and unfairly penalise their perceived adversaries, the “how” being in overwhelming probability that there’s info from Youtube feeding data about those who google “backgammon” AND have the ‘wrong politics’.

Mark Dice deals in facts, it’s up to the individual about which facts they find agreeable/disagreeable, but the facts are the facts.

:smiley:

Facts like the movie Angels & Demons being a fraud, aimed at covering up the existence of a secret society called the Illuminati?

Or Super Bowl half time shows being elaborate Illuminati rituals hidden in plain sight?

Katy Perry being a satanic witch?

Whatever, but let’s hear you right now denounce the msm bullshit bombardment that has resulted in real ordnance bombardments.

And compare that as if it’s some kind of equivalence to something ‘offensive’ that Dice has said.

If Mark Dice deals in facts, then why aren’t you focusing on the real problems, like the Illuminati and satanic witches in their cult that rules the world? They’re the ones in control of all this.

Metaphor as literary device in reference to facts is nevertheless still dealing in facts.